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BassFan Money Rankings
BassFan's Money Rankings rank tour anglers by winnings for the current year only, and may or may not include big bass awards depending on how a particular tour releases its data. Only end-of-season rankings are archived.
Combined Money Rankings
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| Place | Angler | City | State | Boat/Motor | Money |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Randy Howell | Springville | AL | Triton/Mercury | $343,000 |
| 2 | Brett Hite | Phoenix | AZ | Ranger/Evinrude | $326,500 |
| 3 | Greg Hackney | Gonzales | LA | Phoenix/Mercury | $229,250 |
| 4 | Casey Ashley | Donalds | SC | Triton/Mercury | $223,000 |
| 5 | Jason Christie | Park Hill | OK | Ranger/Mercury | $208,800 |
| 6 | Jacob Wheeler | Indianapolis | IN | Ranger/Evinrude | $179,000 |
| 7 | Bryan Thrift | Shelby | NC | Ranger/Evinrude | $169,000 |
| 8 | Matt Arey | Shelby | NC | Ranger/Evinrude | $159,000 |
| 9 | Chris Lane | Guntersville | AL | Legend/Mercury | $142,000 |
| 10 | Jacob Powroznik | Prince George | VA | Ranger/Mercury | $140,500 |
| 11 | Mike McClelland | Bella Vista | AR | Stratos/Mercury | $132,500 |
| 12 | Randall Tharp | Port St. Joe | FL | Ranger/Evinrude | $124,500 |
| 13 | Skip Johnson | Goodells | MI | Skeeter/Yamaha | $114,000 |
| 14 | Matt Herren | Trussville | AL | Skeeter/Yamaha | $109,000 |
| 15 | Gerald Swindle | Warrior | AL | Triton/Mercury | $107,000 |
| 16 | Kevin VanDam | Kalamazoo | MI | Nitro/Mercury | $104,000 |
| 16 | Andy Morgan | Dayton | TN | Bullet/Evinrude | $104,000 |
| 18 | Steve Kennedy | Auburn | AL | Ranger/Yamaha | $102,000 |
| 19 | Mark Davis | Mt. Ida | AR | Skeeter/Yamaha | $93,500 |
| 20 | Mark Rose | Marion | AR | Ranger/Mercury | $86,000 |
| 20 | Cody Meyer | Grass Valley | CA | Ranger/Evinrude | $86,000 |
| 22 | Todd Faircloth | Jasper | TX | Skeeter/Yamaha | $80,000 |
| 22 | Ott DeFoe | Knoxville | TN | NItro/Mercury | $80,000 |
| 24 | Chad Morgenthaler | Coulterville | IL | Phoenix/Mercury | $77,200 |
| 25 | Brent Ehrler | Redlands | CA | Ranger/Mercury | $77,000 |
| 26 | Edwin Evers | Talala | OK | Nitro/Mercury | $76,000 |
| 27 | Michael Neal | Dayton | TN | Bullet/Yamaha | $72,000 |
| 28 | Fred Roumbanis | Bixby | OK | Legend/Mercury | $71,900 |
| 29 | Dean Rojas | Lake Havasu City | AZ | Skeeter/Yamaha | $71,400 |
| 30 | Jason Lambert | Pickwick Dam | TN | $70,000 | |
| 31 | Andy Montgomery | Blacksburg | SC | Ranger/Mercury | $66,000 |
| 32 | Aaron Martens | Leeds | AL | Phoenix/Mercury | $63,750 |
| 33 | Skeet Reese | Auburn | CA | Ranger/Mercury | $63,500 |
| 34 | Shad Schenck | Waynetown | IN | Ranger/Mercury | $59,000 |
| 34 | Anthony Gagliardi | Prosperity | SC | Ranger/Evinrude | $59,000 |
| 34 | Luke Clausen | Otis Orchards | WA | Ranger/Yamaha | $59,000 |
| 37 | Keith Combs | Huntington | TX | Ranger/Yamaha | $58,800 |
| 38 | Jason Williamson | Aiken | SC | Nitro/Mercury | $58,000 |
| 38 | Scott Martin | Clewiston | FL | Ranger/Evinrude | $58,000 |
| 40 | Takahiro Omori | Emory | TX | Ranger/Yamaha | $57,000 |
| 40 | David Dudley | Lynchburg | VA | Ranger/Mercury | $57,000 |
| 42 | Scott Canterbury | Odenville | AL | Ranger/Mercury | $56,000 |
| 43 | Alton Jones | Waco | TX | Skeeter/Yamaha | $55,000 |
| 44 | Shinichi Fukae | Osaka | Ranger/Mercury | $54,000 | |
| 44 | Clent Davis | Montevallo | AL | $54,000 | |
| 46 | Morizo Shimizu | Osaka | Champion/Mercury | $53,750 | |
| 47 | Jim Moynagh | Carver | MN | Ranger/Yamaha | $53,000 |
| 47 | John Crews, Jr. | Salem | VA | Bass Cat/Mercury | $53,000 |
| 49 | Austin Terry | San Angelo | TX | $52,000 | |
| 49 | Wesley Strader | Spring City | TN | Ranger/Evinrude | $52,000 |
| 49 | Jared Lintner | Arroyo Grande | CA | Skeeter/Yamaha | $52,000 |
| 49 | Randy Haynes | Counce | TN | Ranger/Mercury | $52,000 |
| 49 | John Cox | Debary | FL | Crestliner/Mercury | $52,000 |
| 54 | James Niggemeyer | Van | TX | Bass Cat/Yamaha | $51,000 |
| 54 | Troy Morrow | Eastanollee | GA | Ranger/Mercury | $51,000 |
| 56 | David Mullins | Mt Carmel | TN | Triton/Mercury | $50,000 |
| 56 | Brad Knight | Wartburg | TN | Ranger/Mercury | $50,000 |
| 56 | Greg Bohannan | Rogers | AR | Ranger/Evinrude | $50,000 |
| 56 | Stetson Blaylock | Benton | AR | Ranger/Mercury | $50,000 |
| 60 | Robbie Dodson | Harrison | AR | Ranger/Mercury | $49,000 |
| 61 | Barry Wilson | Birmingham | AL | Ranger/Evinrude | $48,000 |
| 61 | Spencer Shuffield | Bismarck | AR | Phoenix/Mercury | $48,000 |
| 61 | Terry Scroggins | San Mateo | FL | Triton/Yamaha | $48,000 |
| 61 | Dave Lefebre | Erie | PA | Ranger/Mercury | $48,000 |
| 61 | Ramie Colson, Jr. | Cadiz | KY | Ranger/Yamaha | $48,000 |
| 66 | Brandon Palaniuk | Rathdrum | ID | Skeeter/Yamaha | $46,500 |
| 67 | David Walker | Sevierville | TN | Ranger/Evinrude | $46,200 |
| 68 | Dan Morehead | Paducah | KY | Ranger/Evinrude | $46,000 |
| 68 | Charles Ingram | Santa Fe | TN | Ranger/Honda | $46,000 |
| 70 | Paul Mueller | Naugatuck | CT | $45,000 | |
| 70 | Davy Hite | Ninety Six | SC | Phoenix/Evinrude | $45,000 |
| 70 | Rick Clunn | Ava | MO | Nitro/Mercury | $45,000 |
| 73 | Justin Lucas | Guntersville | AL | Ranger/Evinrude | $44,500 |
| 73 | Bobby Lane | Lakeland | FL | Phoenix/Yamaha | $44,500 |
| 75 | Matthew Stefan | Chicago | IL | Skeeter/Yamaha | $44,000 |
| 75 | Richard Peek | Centre | AL | $44,000 | |
| 75 | Russ Lane | Prattville | AL | Phoenix/Yamaha | $44,000 |
| 75 | Rich Dalbey | Greenville | TX | Ranger/Mercury | $44,000 |
| 79 | Michael Iaconelli | Pittsgrove | NJ | Bass Cat/Yamaha | $43,500 |
| 79 | Cliff Crochet | Pierre Part | LA | Skeeter/Yamaha | $43,500 |
| 79 | Hank Cherry | Maiden | NC | Triton/Mercury | $43,500 |
| 82 | Bill Lowen | Brookville | IN | Skeeter/Yamaha | $42,500 |
| 83 | John Voyles | Petersburg | IN | $42,000 | |
| 83 | Tom Monsoor | La Crosse | WI | Ranger/Mercury | $42,000 |
| 83 | Alex Davis | Albertville | AL | $42,000 | |
| 86 | Michael Wooley | Collierville | TN | $41,000 | |
| 86 | Nate Wellman | Newaygo | MI | Phoenix/Mercury | $41,000 |
| 86 | Clifford Pirch | Payson | AZ | Skeeter/Yamaha | $41,000 |
| 86 | Mike Kernan | Wylie | TX | $41,000 | |
| 86 | Tommy Biffle | Wagoner | OK | Ranger/Mercury | $41,000 |
| 91 | Ish Monroe | Hughson | CA | Ranger/Yamaha | $40,600 |
| 92 | Scott Suggs | Alexander | AR | Ranger/Evinrude | $40,000 |
| 92 | Brian Snowden | Reeds Springs | MO | Nitro/Mercury | $40,000 |
| 92 | Scott Rook | Little Rock | AR | Ranger/Mercury | $40,000 |
| 92 | Marty Robinson | Lyman | SC | Skeeter/Yamaha | $40,000 |
| 92 | Shane Lehew | Charlotte | NC | $40,000 | |
| 92 | Kotaro Kiriyama | Moody | AL | Bass Cat/Yamaha | $40,000 |
| 92 | Kelly Jordon | Mineola | TX | Skeeter/Yamaha | $40,000 |
| 92 | Philip Jarabeck | Lynchburg | VA | Ranger/Mercury | $40,000 |
| 92 | Tim Horton | Muscle Shoals | AL | Nitro/Mercury | $40,000 |
| 92 | Stephen Browning | Hot Springs | AR | Triton/Mercury | $40,000 |
| 92 | Josh Bertrand | Gilbert | AZ | Nitro/Mercury | $40,000 |
| 92 | Chris Baumgardner | Gastonia | NC | Ranger/Evinrude | $40,000 |
| 104 | J.T. Kenney | Palm Bay | FL | Ranger/Mercury | $38,000 |
| 104 | Micah Frazier | Newnan | GA | Ranger/Mercury | $38,000 |
| 106 | Chris Zaldain | San Jose | CA | Skeeter/Yamaha | $36,000 |
| 106 | Peter Thliveros | Jacksonville | FL | Ranger/Mercury | $36,000 |
| 106 | Kerry Milner | Bono | AR | $36,000 | |
| 106 | Jeff Gustafson | Keewatin | ON | Lund/Mercury | $36,000 |
| 106 | Adrian Avena | Vineland | NJ | BassCat/Mercury | $36,000 |
| 106 | Keith Amerson | Bethel Springs | TN | $36,000 | |
| 112 | James Watson | Waynesville | MO | Ranger/Mercury | $35,000 |
| 113 | Jonathon VanDam | Kalamazoo | MI | Triton/Mercury | $34,500 |
| 114 | Jay Yelas | Corvallis | OR | Ranger/Mercury | $34,000 |
| 114 | Stacey D. King | Reeds Spring | MO | Nitro/Mercury | $34,000 |
| 114 | Matt Greenblatt | Port St. Lucie | FL | Ranger/Yamaha | $34,000 |
| 114 | Travis Fox | Lowell | AR | $34,000 | |
| 118 | Jeff Kriet | Ardmore | OK | Triton/Yamaha | $33,000 |
| 118 | Ryan Davidson | Huntington | WV | $33,000 | |
| 120 | Cliff Prince | Palatka | FL | Sterling/Mercury | $32,500 |
| 121 | Tom Redington | Royse City | TX | $32,000 | |
| 121 | Paul Elias | Laurel | MS | Triton/Honda | $32,000 |
| 123 | Jayme Rampey | Liberty | SC | $31,000 | |
| 124 | Andrew Upshaw | Hemphill | TX | Legend/Mercury | $30,000 |
| 124 | Casey Scanlon | Lenexa | KS | Nitro/Mercury | $30,000 |
| 124 | Nick Prvonozac | Warren | OH | $30,000 | |
| 124 | Keith Poche | Pike Road | AL | Skeeter/Yamaha | $30,000 |
| 124 | Britt Myers | Lake Wylie | SC | Bass Cat/Mercury | $30,000 |
| 124 | John Murray | Phoenix | AZ | Ranger/Mercury | $30,000 |
| 124 | Shawn Murphy | Nicholasville | KY | Ranger/Evinrude | $30,000 |
| 124 | Rick Morris | Lake Gaston | VA | Triton/Mercury | $30,000 |
| 124 | Jason Meninger | Gainesville | GA | Ranger/Yamaha | $30,000 |
| 124 | Brandon Lester | Fayetteville | TN | $30,000 | |
| 124 | Gary Klein | Weatherford | TX | Triton/Mercury | $30,000 |
| 124 | Kelley Jaye | Dadeville | AL | Ranger/Evinrude | $30,000 |
| 124 | Brent Chapman | Lake Quivira | KS | Triton/Mercury | $30,000 |
| 124 | Glenn Browne | Ocala | FL | Ranger/Evinrude | $30,000 |
| 124 | Patrick Bone | Cleveland | GA | $30,000 | |
| 124 | Drew Benton | Panama City | FL | Phoenix/Mercury | $30,000 |
| 140 | Tony Davis | Williston | FL | $29,000 | |
| 141 | Rusty Trancygier | Hahira | GA | Ranger/Yamaha | $28,000 |
| 141 | Jeff Sprague | Point | TX | $28,000 | |
| 141 | Casey Martin | New Market | AL | Ranger/Evinrude | $28,000 |
| 141 | Brent Long | Cornelius | NC | Ranger/Yamaha | $28,000 |
| 145 | Gary Yamamoto | Mineola | TX | Legend/Yamaha | $26,000 |
| 146 | Bernie Schultz | Gainesville | FL | Ranger/Mercury | $24,500 |
| 147 | Scott Wiley | Bay Minette | AL | $24,000 | |
| 147 | Vic Vatalaro | Kent | OH | Ranger/Yamaha | $24,000 |
| 147 | Colby Schrumpf | Highland | IL | $24,000 | |
| 147 | Zell Rowland | Montgomery | TX | Skeeter/Yamaha | $24,000 |
| 147 | Jason Reyes | Humble | TX | $24,000 | |
| 147 | Larry Nixon | Bee Branch | AR | Ranger/Evinrude | $24,000 |
| 147 | Brandon Hunter | Benton | KY | $24,000 | |
| 147 | Mark Daniels, Jr. | Fairfield | CA | Ranger/Evinrude | $24,000 |
| 147 | Rick Cotten | Guntersville | AL | $24,000 | |
| 147 | Brandon Cobb | Greenwood | SC | $24,000 | |
| 147 | Randy Blaukat | Joplin | MO | Ranger/Mercury | $24,000 |
| 158 | Jason Quinn | Clover | SC | Legend/Mercury | $22,000 |
| 158 | Jonathan Newton | Rogersville | AL | Ranger/Evinrude | $22,000 |
| 158 | Jordan Lee | Vinemont | AL | $22,000 | |
| 158 | Troy Hollowell | Paducah | KY | $22,000 | |
| 158 | Dion Hibdon | Sunrise Beach | MO | Ranger/Evinrude | $22,000 |
| 158 | Ryan Chandler | Hobart | IN | $22,000 | |
| 158 | Terry Bolton, Jr. | Paducah | KY | Ranger/Evinrude | $22,000 |
| 165 | David Kilgore | Jasper | AL | $21,000 | |
| 165 | Brandon Card | Caryville | TN | Triton/Suzuki | $21,000 |
| 167 | Doug Thompson | Mabelvale | AR | $20,500 | |
| 167 | Charlie Hartley | Grove City | OH | Ranger/Mercury | $20,500 |
| 169 | Adam Wagner | Cookeville | TN | $20,000 | |
| 169 | Greg Vinson | Wetumpka | AL | Phoenix/Yamaha | $20,000 |
| 169 | Jim Tutt | Longview | TX | Ranger/Evinrude | $20,000 |
| 169 | J. Todd Tucker | Moultrie | GA | Phoenix/Mercury | $20,000 |
| 169 | Kevin Stewart | Elk Grove | CA | Phoenix/Mercury | $20,000 |
| 169 | Jeremy Starks | Charleston | WV | Skeeter/Yamaha | $20,000 |
| 169 | Dave Smith | Del City | OK | Ranger/Mercury | $20,000 |
| 169 | Bradley Roy | Lancaster | KY | Triton/Mercury | $20,000 |
| 169 | Pete Ponds | Madison | MS | Ranger/Mercury | $20,000 |
| 169 | Chad Pipkens | Holt | MI | /Yamaha | $20,000 |
| 169 | Yusuke Miyazaki | Mineola | TX | Skeeter/Yamaha | $20,000 |
| 169 | Tommy Martin | Hemphill | TX | Nitro/Mercury | $20,000 |
| 169 | Koby Kreiger | Okeechobee | FL | Ranger/Evinrude | $20,000 |
| 169 | Jamie Horton | Centerville | AL | Triton/Mercury | $20,000 |
| 169 | Kenyon Hill | Norman | OK | Triton/Yamaha | $20,000 |
| 169 | Grant Goldbeck | Boerne | TX | Bass Cat/Yamaha | $20,000 |
| 169 | Kurt Dove | Fairfax | VA | Skeeter/Yamaha | $20,000 |
| 169 | Bill Day | Frankfort | KY | $20,000 | |
| 169 | Brandon Coulter | Knoxville | TN | Skeeter/Yamaha | $20,000 |
| 188 | Richard Lowitzki | St. Charles | IL | $18,000 | |
| 188 | Todd Hollowell | Fishers | IN | Ranger/Mercury | $18,000 |
| 188 | Charlie Evans | Gilbertsville | KY | $18,000 | |
| 188 | Darrell Davis | Dover | FL | $18,000 | |
| 188 | Christopher Brasher | Spring | TX | $18,000 | |
| 188 | Lionel Botha | Okeechobee | FL | $18,000 | |
| 194 | Mike Surman | Boca Raton | FL | Ranger/Evinrude | $16,000 |
| 194 | Rob Kilby | Hot Springs | AR | Ranger/Mercury | $16,000 |
| 194 | Barton Aiken | Greenville | SC | $16,000 | |
| 197 | Leon Williamson | Fairdale | KY | $15,000 | |
| 198 | Clark Wendlandt | Cedar Park | TX | Ranger/Evinrude | $14,000 |
| 198 | Kevin Short | Mayflower | AR | Bass Cat/Mercury | $14,000 |
| 198 | Ray Scheide | Russellville | AR | Ranger/Yamaha | $14,000 |
| 198 | Bob Morin | Seymour | TN | $14,000 | |
| 198 | Tim Malone | Gatlinburg | TN | $14,000 | |
| 198 | David Fritts | Lexington | NC | Ranger/Evinrude | $14,000 |
| 198 | John Devere | Berea | KY | Ranger/Yamaha | $14,000 |
| 198 | Stuart Arthur | Benton | MO | Ranger/Evinrude | $14,000 |
| 206 | Shaw E. Grigsby, Jr. | Gainesville | FL | Triton/Mercury | $13,000 |
| 207 | Coby Carden | Shelby | AL | Skeeter/Yamaha | $12,100 |
| 208 | Byron Velvick | Del Rio | TX | Triton/Mercury | $12,000 |
| 208 | Eric Oliverson | Nixa | MO | $12,000 | |
| 210 | Stephen Mui | Bartlett | IL | $11,000 | |
| 210 | Kevin Hawk | Guntersville | AL | Ranger/Mercury | $11,000 |
| 210 | Boyd Duckett | Demopolis | AL | Triton/Mercury | $11,000 |
| 210 | Tracy Adams | Wilkesboro | NC | Nitro/Mercury | $11,000 |
| 214 | Kenneth (Boo) Woods | Oneida | KY | Ranger/Mercury | $10,000 |
| 214 | Michael Simonton | Fremont | OH | Triton/Yamaha | $10,000 |
| 214 | Fletcher Shryock | Newcomerstown | OH | Nitro/Mercury | $10,000 |
| 214 | Terry Segraves | Kissimmee | FL | Ranger/Evinrude | $10,000 |
| 214 | Bryan Schmitt | Deale | MD | $10,000 | |
| 214 | Trevor Romans | Plano | TX | $10,000 | |
| 214 | Clark Reehm | Russellville | AR | Skeeter/Yamaha | $10,000 |
| 214 | Matt Reed | Madisonville | TX | Nitro/Mercury | $10,000 |
| 214 | Jerry Reagan | Byrdstown | TN | $10,000 | |
| 214 | Blake Nick | Adger | AL | Ranger/Mercury | $10,000 |
| 214 | Michael Murphy | Gilbert | SC | Ranger/Yamaha | $10,000 |
| 214 | Brock Mosley | Collinsville | MS | $10,000 | |
| 214 | Jared Miller | Norman | OK | Skeeter/Yamaha | $10,000 |
| 214 | Bill McDonald | Greenwood | IN | Ranger/Evinrude | $10,000 |
| 214 | Billy McCaghren | Mayflower | AR | Bass Cat/Mercury | $10,000 |
| 214 | Jeff Lugar | McGaheysville | VA | $10,000 | |
| 214 | Jared Knuth | Wahoo | NE | $10,000 | |
| 214 | George Kapiton | Inverness | FL | $10,000 | |
| 214 | Chris Jones | Bokoshe | OK | $10,000 | |
| 214 | Timothy Johnston | Kalispell | MT | $10,000 | |
| 214 | Rex Huff | Corbin | KY | $10,000 | |
| 214 | Rich Howes | Oviedo | FL | $10,000 | |
| 214 | Guido Hibdon | Gravois Mills | MO | Ranger/Evinrude | $10,000 |
| 214 | Chris Heath | North Augusta | SC | $10,000 | |
| 214 | Skylar Hamilton | Dandridge | TN | $10,000 | |
| 214 | Chad Grigsby | Maple Grove | MN | Ranger/Mercury | $10,000 |
| 214 | Troy Gibson | Eufaula | AL | $10,000 | |
| 214 | Mark Dove | North Vernon | IN | $10,000 | |
| 214 | Jim Dillard | West Monroe | LA | Ranger/Mercury | $10,000 |
| 214 | Jimmy Brewer | Marshall | TX | $10,000 | |
| 214 | Cody Bird | Granbury | TX | Skeeter/Yamaha | $10,000 |
| 214 | Robert Behrle | Hoover | AL | $10,000 | |
| 214 | Joel Baker | Talala | OK | $10,000 | |
| 247 | Andrew Luxon | Richmond | KY | $8,000 | |
| 247 | Zach Caudle | Shreveport | LA | $8,000 | |
| 249 | Alton Wilhoit | Harrah | OK | $4,000 | |
| 249 | Darrel Robertson | Jay | OK | Ranger/Yamaha | $4,000 |
| 249 | Bradley Rightnour | Mingoville | PA | Ranger/Mercury | $4,000 |
| 249 | Kelly Power | Cape Fair | MO | $4,000 | |
| 249 | Matthew Pennington | Springdale | AR | $4,000 | |
| 249 | Robert Pearson | Oak Hill | VA | Ranger/Evinrude | $4,000 |
| 249 | Justin Morton | Etoile | TX | $4,000 | |
| 249 | Drew Montgomery | Denver | NC | $4,000 | |
| 249 | Ray Meredith | Smiths Grove | KY | $4,000 | |
| 249 | Roland Martin | Naples | FL | Nitro/Mercury | $4,000 |
| 249 | Lendell Martin, Jr. | Nacogdoches | TX | Ranger/Yamaha | $4,000 |
| 249 | Jimmy Houston | Cookson | OK | Ranger/Mercury | $4,000 |
| 249 | Payden Hibdon | Stover | MO | Ranger/Evinrude | $4,000 |
| 249 | Dustin Grice | Hewitt | TX | $4,000 | |
| 249 | R.C. Cooper | Nashua | NH | $4,000 | |
| 249 | James Christian | Dickson | TN | $4,000 | |
| 249 | Glenn Chappelear | Acworth | GA | $4,000 | |
| 249 | Clayton Batts | Macon | GA | $4,000 |
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